For nearly 20 years, Brian Camenker, executive director of MassResistance, has been aggressively chronicling the pro-homosexual movement in Massachusetts. His website features provocative reports on lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) activism, including a recent exposé on how tax-supported youth programs encourage transgenderism while ignoring the dangers of such a lifestyle.
It is coverage like this that has earned MassResistance a “hate group” designation from the Southern Poverty Law Center (an organization infamous for smearing ideological opponents with the label) and scorn from other gay-friendly groups.
While Camenker is tough on LGBT activism, he also can be hard on his co-belligerents in the pro-family movement, saying pro-family lawyers “botched” the recent Defense of Marriage Act and Proposition 8 cases that came before the U.S. Supreme Court. He added that some pro-family leaders are “deathly afraid that telling the truth about homosexuality might offend someone.”
Camenker spoke to me earlier this week, sharing his observations on LGBT activism in Massachusetts.
On your website you write, “The slippery slope is real.” What’s been happening in Massachusetts since homosexual marriage was legalized in 2004? So much that people never imagined would happen, happened. In the legal profession, family law lawyers have to take courses to understand this whole business of gay law. In public schools, they started off with assemblies recognizing gay marriage, and now if you say anything against gay marriage it’s considered bullying. You not only have to recognize it, you have to affirm it.
This year the Department of Education put out a directive that schools need to allow, not only boys to use the girls’ locker and restrooms, but play on girls’ sports teams if they identify as a female.
There seems to be no end to it. It’s madness that comes over people who should know better, imposing just insane things on society.
A state Joint Judiciary Committee hearing on July 9 heard testimony about several anti-morality bills. One would further the provisions of the 2011 “Transgender Rights and Hate Crimes Bill,” which added gender identity to a wide swath of anti-discrimination laws. What’s up? The transgender movement wants to extend the current transgender law into public accommodations, so [the 2011 law] would apply not just to restrooms but also churches and hospitals and clinics, and to punish even those who make a negative comment about transgenders. What they said in their own testimony before the legislature, how they want to force people throughout society to embrace this, is ghastly.
The head of the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination, Julian Tynes, testified at the hearing that transgenderism is an “immutable characteristic” that is protected by the [state] constitution’s declaration of human rights. And he said businesses that do this gender stereotyping must be prosecuted.
Another activist lawyer said that the discomfort that people have with sharing a restroom with someone of the opposite sex is the same as white people not wanting to share drinking foundations with blacks in the Jim Crow era.
And there is no church or religious exemption built into any of this.
Why do you believe the pro-family movement is losing the marriage battle? You need to fight [the homosexual agenda] on the basis that the whole concept is insane. If you accept that civil unions are legitimate, for example, or that homosexuality is not unhealthy and it is not destructive, eventually we’re going to lose.
A current [centuries-old] Massachusetts statute, which has never been repealed, describes homosexuality as the “abominable and detestable crime against Nature.” That’s how society has generally viewed homosexuality. We have not gone to the wall with that.
But doesn’t this very aggressive stance alienate moderates? I disagree that being moderate and not showing these things helps our cause. We are not reckless nor do we use inflammatory rhetoric. We do it in a very matter-of-fact way.
But if nobody talks about it, then it’s like it’s not happening and the other side gets a free pass. But you don’t even have to say it’s abominable. You can talk about the mental health issues, the diseases, and the enormous number of problems homosexuals suffer.
The question is, why isn’t everybody else talking about this?
You’ve said that, despite the slippery slope, you’re optimistic about the future. Nobody thought the Soviet Union would ever fall or that Jim Crow would ever go away. What we now have is an aberration. The question is, how long is it going to be like this? The progressive gay movement is a house of cards. It’s built on intimidation and force and lies.
I grew up in the South, and in my own high school, integration happened without a lot of problems. Within a few years students voted in a black homecoming king and a white homecoming queen, and there was no diversity training. But in my own kids’ high school, for kids to accept homosexuality and transgenderism they had to have constant diversity training, constant propaganda.
Every generation has to be forced to believe homosexuality is normal. When they stop doing the propaganda, people will stop believing it. That’s why the gay movement is so focused on the public schools. And that’s why we’re focused on getting it out.